{"id":2252,"date":"2014-10-15T13:22:00","date_gmt":"2014-10-15T11:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/combien-de-temps-pour-faire-st-cyr-versailles-chantiers-letude-vient-de-sortir\/"},"modified":"2014-10-15T13:22:00","modified_gmt":"2014-10-15T11:22:00","slug":"combien-de-temps-pour-faire-st-cyr-versailles-chantiers-letude-vient-de-sortir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/combien-de-temps-pour-faire-st-cyr-versailles-chantiers-letude-vient-de-sortir\/","title":{"rendered":"Combien de temps pour faire St-Cyr => Versailles-Chantiers ? L’\u00e9tude vient de sortir."},"content":{"rendered":"

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Sur les 4 dernières semaines j’ai chronométré le TER 16752 (Corail départ Chartres à 6h52) à partir du Km 23 (à mi-chemin entre St Quentin et St Cyr) et jusqu’à l’arrêt en gare de Versailles-Chantiers avec pointage également au Km 17 (un peu avant les quais à VC). Entre le Km 17 et l’arrêt du train, il y a environ 500 m. <\/span><\/p>\n

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Chiffres en minutes (") et secondes (‘)<\/span><\/p>\n

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Date<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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Km 23 à
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Km 17<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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Km 17 à l’arrêt du train en gare<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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Total Km 23 à l’arrêt du train en gare<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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15-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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03" 46′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 41′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 27′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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16-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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03" 33′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 37′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 10′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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17-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 53′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 13′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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07" 06′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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18-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 54′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 26′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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07" 20′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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19-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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03" 50′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 16′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 06′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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22-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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04" 07′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 31′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 38′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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23-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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07" 52′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 05′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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08" 57′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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24-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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09" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 02′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
10" 42′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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25-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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06" 03′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 31′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
07" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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26-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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09" 13′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 00′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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10" 13′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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29-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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10" 30′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 53′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
12" 23′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
30-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
05" 16′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 28′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
06" 44′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
01-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
03" 58′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
00" 36′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
04" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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02-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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08" 56′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 32′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
10" 28′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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03-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
09" 15′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 28′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
10" 43′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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06-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
11" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 22′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
13" 02′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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07-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
06" 00′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
07" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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08-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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07" 12′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 02′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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08" 14′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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09-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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07" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 09′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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08" 43′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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10-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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03" 58′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 36′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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05" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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13-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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06" 23′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 19′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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07" 42′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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14-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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09" 10′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
\n
01" 23′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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10" 33′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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15-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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06" 42′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 29′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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08" 11′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Moyenne *<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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06" 48′<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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01" 22′<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n
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08" 10′<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n
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* On peut dire tout ce qu’on veut d’une moyenne, mais ça donne une idée.<\/span><\/p>\n
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1) Ce qui frappe, après presque 3 ans de cadencement (qui veut dire période régulière), c’est qu’il n’y a rien de régulier dans les chiffres. Du simple au triple pour un Km 23 => arrêt en gare (4" 34′ à 13" 02′). On nous dit souvent que la gare de Versailles-Chantiers est saturée, mais pourquoi pas résoudre les problèmes de la gare avant de se lancer dans un cadencement irréalisable.<\/span><\/p>\n
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2) Tous les matins (ou presque) le TER 16752 passe Saint Quentin à 7h34 (environ 500 mètres avant le Km 23). Il faut 8 minutes pour faire Km 23 => arrêt en gare, ce qui donne 8h42. Tous ceux qui aimeraient prendre le RER C vers Massy ou le SLOM vers Saint Quentin le savent : les correspondances sont difficiles. Je ne parle même pas du DEFI de 7h40 (que j’ai réussi à prendre le 01\/10 grâce à une arrivée à une vitesse de fusée : 4" 34 !!! C’est possible.<\/span><\/p>\n
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3) Le chiffre pour Km 17 jusqu’à l’arrêt du train montre que même "arrivé en gare" on est encore loin de pouvoir descendre.<\/span><\/p>\n
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\n Date<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n Km 23 à <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n Km 17<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n Km 17 à l’arrêt du train en gare<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n Total Km 23 à l’arrêt du train en gare<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 15-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 03" 46′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 41′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 27′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 16-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 03" 33′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 37′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 10′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 17-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 53′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 13′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 06′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 18-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 54′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 26′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 20′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 19-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 03" 50′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 16′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 06′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 22-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 04" 07′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 31′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 38′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 23-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 52′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 05′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 08" 57′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 24-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 09" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 02′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 10" 42′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 25-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 06" 03′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 31′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 26-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 09" 13′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 00′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 10" 13′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 29-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 10" 30′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 53′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 12" 23′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 30-sept-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 16′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 28′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 06" 44′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 01-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 03" 58′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 00" 36′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 04" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 02-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 08" 56′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 32′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 10" 28′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 03-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 09" 15′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 28′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 10" 43′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 06-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 11" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 22′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 13" 02′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 07-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 06" 00′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 40′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 08-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 12′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 02′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 08" 14′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 09-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 09′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 08" 43′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 10-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 03" 58′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 36′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 05" 34′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 13-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 06" 23′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 19′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 07" 42′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 14-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 09" 10′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 23′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 10" 33′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n 15-oct-2014<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 06" 42′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 29′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 08" 11′<\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n <\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n <\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n <\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n <\/span><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n Moyenne <\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n*	\n 06" 48′<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 01" 22′<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n	\n 08" 10′<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n <\/span><\/p>\n * On peut dire tout ce qu’on veut d’une moyenne, mais ça donne une idée.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/span><\/p>\n 1) Ce qui frappe, après presque 3 ans de cadencement (qui veut dire période régulière), c’est qu’il n’y a rien de régulier dans les chiffres. Du simple au triple pour un Km 23 => arrêt en gare (4" 34′ à 13" 02′). On nous dit souvent que la gare de Versailles-Chantiers est saturée, mais pourquoi pas résoudre les problèmes de la gare avant de se lancer dans un cadencement irréalisable.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/span><\/p>\n 2) Tous les matins (ou presque) le TER 16752 passe Saint Quentin à 7h34 (environ 500 mètres avant le Km 23). Il faut 8 minutes pour faire Km 23 => arrêt en gare, ce qui donne 8h42. Tous ceux qui aimeraient prendre le RER C vers Massy ou le SLOM vers Saint Quentin le savent : les correspondances sont difficiles. Je ne parle même pas du DEFI de 7h40 (que j’ai réussi à prendre le 01\/10 grâce à une arrivée à une vitesse de fusée : 4" 34 !!! C’est possible.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/span><\/p>\n 3) Le chiffre pour Km 17 jusqu’à l’arrêt du train montre que même "arrivé en gare" on est encore loin de pouvoir descendre.<\/span><\/p>\n <\/span><\/p>\n <\/p>\n \n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Sur les 4 dernières semaines j’ai chronométré le TER 16752 (Corail départ Chartres à 6h52) à partir du Km 23 (à mi-chemin entre St…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2252"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2252"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2252\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2252"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2252"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.paris-chartres.fr\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2252"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}